Position in a Cartesian coordinate system

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    In the construction industry, positioning in a Cartesian coordinate system refers to the mapping of a design into a georeferenced (geographic) coordinate system for surveying purposes using metric coordinates (north, east, and elevation). In German-speaking countries, for example, the Gauss-Krüger coordinate system is used for this purpose.

    In general, BIM models can be created without Cartesian positioning; however, if required, it makes sense to establish this association at the start of the project.

    Clients very often require that a construction project be mapped onto a Cartesian coordinate system—but planners would be well advised to avoid this at all costs and, if necessary, to negotiate the terms. What is the problem with this?

    The geometric origin of a project can arguably be considered the most important coordinate in a digital building model—all other positions are referenced relative to it, and merging multiple sub-models (e.g., from different disciplines) also requires this central anchor point. The problem with using Cartesian coordinates as the project origin is that this origin can often be tens of thousands of kilometers away from one’s own property. This can lead to many problems—ranging from inconveniences when zooming and working in the model to geometric inaccuracies, e.g., when transferring model data to manufacturing machines such as milling machines or robots.

    Positioning in a Cartesian coordinate system is performed at any stage of the planning process, depending on the project specifications. If specified by the client, this should be done as early as possible.

    Features

    In this phase, the object is positioned, and the necessary features are created by moving the object:

    General:

    • North position
    • East position
    • Elevation
    • Geographic north (angle to project north)

    Instructions

    Generally, positioning is based on a surveyor's plan, which is typically provided as a north-oriented AutoCAD drawing and whose objects (cadastral boundaries and the like) are correctly positioned relative to the drawing origin in a Cartesian coordinate system. In this DWG, the location of the building in the property cadastre is defined by drawing building reference points.

    To ensure correct positioning, the coordinates must first be transferred or imported from the surveyor's DWG file into a Revit file. By further transferring this coordinate data to the various Revit sub-models of a project, they are then placed on so-called shared coordinates—that is, on a consistent, common geographic location.

    Overview of the Model Status in the Project

    The Gauss-Krüger coordinate system (also known as the Cartesian coordinate system) serves as the basis for locating projects in relation to their actual positions.

    Use of the Gauss-Krüger coordinate system

    The project location is defined by inserting the three Gauss-Krüger reference points at their original positions. Since the data is shared with other project participants, a jointly defined project location is necessary. This means that the project model in ARCHICAD is not modeled at the ARCHICAD project origin (= x), but within the Gauss-Krüger coordinate system.


    However, if modeling in ArchiCAD takes place far from the project origin, it is important to note that the project file enters a state known as “far from the origin,” which can lead to unwanted inaccuracies and, in some cases, software errors. This state is irreversible; therefore, we recommend the following if a file located according to the Gauss-Krüger coordinate system is required for IFC/DWG export.

    1. As usual, you will be working close to the ArchiCAD project origin in the "working file." The model should not be moved along the Z-axis.
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  • You create a second file, which will be the "georeferenced file."
  • Ideally, a DWG file has been provided. Import this 2D document into ArchiCAD as follows.
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  • Place the file in the ArchiCAD root directory
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  • The georeferenced file is placed in the correct location. The distance may be several kilometers
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  • Now insert the working file into this file as a hotlink.
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  • The insertion point is the origin in both files. Position the model at this location
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  • You do not move or rotate the model; instead, you move or rotate the survey file. A predefined point on the property will serve as the project origin. Let’s position the survey file accordingly at the ArchiCAD project origin
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  • Enable the survey point. You can find this either under the menu item Options > Project Preferences > Survey Point > Show Survey Point, or you can find the same icon on the toolbar
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  • The survey point now appears at the project origin. Drag it to the new position.
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  • You can use the command to change the north direction
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  • We have used blue arrows to show how the geographic north direction behaves after the survey file has been adjusted. The project north direction in ArchiCAD is vertical by default. Rotate it so that it is parallel to the arrow.
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  • The survey point now indicates true north and represents the property's location according to the Gauss-Krüger coordinate system
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  • You can enter the elevation value from the survey in the location settings. This does not affect the model content but is exported as an IFC property.
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  • The georeferencing parameters for IFC2x3 are stored in the ifcProject unit in the following PSets
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  • The IFC4 format looks different; it has a different structure. The PSets mentioned are not present.
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  • In SOLIBRI, model coordinates are recognized as shown in the images below: The survey point will be the global origin (IFC 0,0,0) of the IFC file, and the coordinates of the model elements are measured relative to this point
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  • The georeferenced file now serves as the source for IFC/DWG exports. No modeling will take place in this file. Modeling must only be performed in the working file, and changes are reflected in the "georef file" by updating the hotlink.
  • The following settings are important when exporting IFC and DWG files: IFC Export Translator --> Geometry Conversion. This ensures that the IFC site unit correctly specifies its distance from the IFC origin (0,0,0). The two do not coincide.
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  • DWG Export Converter:
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    If the project is being managed on the Autodesk Construction Cloud (ACC), please note the following information from Autodesk:

    • The "Publish Current Shared Coordinate System" option is disabled for linked cloud-based collaboration files in Revit.
    • However, you can still retrieve the shared coordinates.

    For more information, see the following Autodesk article


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